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Post by Administrator on Sept 8, 2009 10:37:53 GMT
Oliver Hart.jpg[/img] Attachments:
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Post by thebaldeagle1932 on Jul 11, 2010 7:29:57 GMT
I saw both George Newton (post-war 1948) and Olly Hart and rate the latter the more spectacular of the two. Did anyone else see them and do they agree or disagree with me?
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Post by christreg on Jul 12, 2010 10:24:21 GMT
I agree Olly was the more spectacular of the two at least post war. I can't remember George in pre war days, when he was in his prime. Although I was a meetings when he rode details are misty to say the least. Max Grosskreutz could put on a bit of a show too.
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Post by oldskidkid on Jul 12, 2010 20:13:58 GMT
I was at New Cross in 1948 when Georgie Newton started his comeback in 1948 some 10 years after he was forced to quit because of ill-health, I think he had a lung taken awaay. He crashed in every race, persevered and made a place in the Rangers side only to be forced out again midway through that season through illness. But he bounced back to ride into the 1950s with teams like Walthamstow, Fleetwood, Liverpool and St Austell. He was a great guy and certainly IMO the equal at least of Olly Hart for spectacle. It would be nice if we could see an action photo of him. Can anyone oblige? Then we can perhaps make an observation.
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Post by olddon on Jul 13, 2010 9:14:03 GMT
Geo Newton legtrailHere's an action photo showing the legtrail style of George Newton. I think it was taken at Liverpool in the 1950s. JACK KEEN. ERITH, KENT Attachments:
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Post by thebaldeagle1932 on Jul 13, 2010 11:49:18 GMT
Stenners 1950I haven't a photo of George Newton as such but this Stenners Annual 1950 cover illustrates his spectacular style much better I think the picture take at Liverpool. Any views on my comment? This shot is pure action as poetry in motion as they say. Attachments:
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Post by Administrator on Jul 14, 2010 21:49:06 GMT
--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Walsh" <candbwalsh@...> wrote: > > This is one of those subjective questions which can never be proven. So many years later, 50 plus at least, there will not be too many around who saw both George and Oliver race enough times to make a fair judgment. If there are a few enthusiasts who saw them both race, it becomes a matter of opinion. For my part Oliver Hart was my hero as a lad and I consider myself fortunate that I was able to watch Oliver thrill the Odsal crowd so many times during the late 40s and early 50s. Spectacular is the only word that I can come up with that gets close to describe his ability to thrill us all. George is another story. I met George on several occasions when he visited his friend and my neighbour, Norman Hargreaves, when George rode for Fleetwood. Unfortunately I only saw George ride once so it would not be a fair opinion. He was a great guy though and tolerated a young hero worshipper as I was in my early to mid teens.It gets my pulse going just thinking about the old time leg trailers! Cheers. >
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Post by Administrator on Jul 14, 2010 21:50:47 GMT
--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <ianjpresslie@...> wrote: > > Before my time but the late Charlie Dugard, rated George Newton as the best he had ever seen, he appeared at Arlington as George Newton or sometimes as Bill Bennett. > George had tuberculosis, I don't think it was widely known at the time he had the disease and this led to the removal of a lung and all his left ribs, and during 1949 his stomach was removed. He rode on, but understandably his poor health affected his riding. ' Wee Georgie ' moved down to the West Country for the better weather and air quality. He rode for St Austell during 1952 and was Plymouth team Manager during 1969. He died ,during 1984 in Plymouth. So with George having all those health problems, is it fair to try and compare these two great trailers, after so many years has passed. > > Ian
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